"The Wall"

From Amal:

http://chromovision.com/films/Wall.wmv

Thoughts?

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Comments

[antitool]

The Palestinians have no-one to blame but themselves. They had their chance--many chances, in fact, and squandered every one of them.

On a trans-state level, sympathy doesn't count for beans. The tired old victim card just doesn't do it for me. What part of "losing the war" don't people understand?

[Amal]

So what you are saying is that because of some serious radicals, a whole population deserves collective punishment?

Hmmm, sound like anyone in history I know?

[antitool]

No, I'm saying that this is the result of 40 years of bad leadership.

Look at what the Jordanians--most of whom are Palestinan emigrants--did in that time. Jordan is an example of great progress in rather non-cooperative conditions. Compare that to the rampant corruption in the governments of Arafat and Abu Mazen. Look at the rejection of the 1998 peace plan by Arafat, for no good reason. Consider the frankly ridiculous refugee status established for the Palestinians in the UN. It's the first time in history that descendants of refugees can also claim a protected status. Note the completely irrational demands of the PLO, the connection of Fatah, Black September, and modern counterparts.

Can you honestly say that the Palestinians have acted in a rational fashion here, that they've made a good-faith effort to improve their lot and hold themselves/their leaders accountable?

Nice bait. Your observations remind me of the Romans, who, like the Israelis and any other state actor in history, behaved anarchically to defend their own interests. Does that sound like anyone you know? Perhaps Andrew Jackson, or Theodore Roosevelt?

[ramasyst]

Amal. Do not confuse issues here. While some of what you are saying may be true, it is irrelevant to the topic at hand.

As for Antitool, this is not about sympathy at all and I suggest you educate yourself more about the ME conflict.

BTW, we are the producers of the Wall of Hate.